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This page contains answers to Frequently Asked Questions I have handled, along with some tips and tricks that users and I have found useful and presented here as questions.

  1. What POS systems are compatible with WinCLD System?
  2. We are starting a new product tomorrow. Can I program WinCLD today?
  3. Can I move my cabinet items on the screen without reprogramming them?
  4. One of my cabinet items is showing zeroes. Why?
  5. All of my cabinet levels have been decreasing over the last 3 weeks, and now read zero. Why?
  6. WinCLD screen says there have been no orders for 30 minutes, but we're selling food. What happened?
  7. WinCLD screen shows 3 sets of yellow numbers over each cabinet level. Why?
  8. How often should I back up my WinCLD system?
  9. Is there any way to print the screens?
  10. Does the system require professional installation?
  11. How many of the systems have been installed?
  12. Is there a warranty on WinCLD system?

Note: These answers use a few shorthand conventions for describing user-interface procedures. Keys shown at the bottom of WinCLD screen are represented with both their number and label, such as [2 LUNCH]. Key combinations will be presented like this: Shift+Tab, which means that you should press and hold down the Shift key, and the Tab key at the same time. Menu selections will be presented like this: Manager->Utilities->Backup, which means that you should press the Manager key on WinCLD, enter the Manager Password, then press the Utilities key, enter the Editing Password, then press the Backup key. Unless specifically stated, it is usually not necessary to press the Enter key when programming WinCLD.

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1. What POS systems are compatible with WinCLD System?

Currently, WinCLD supports all PC-POS register systems, including those with Split-Function and those running Store Systems 1 or 1.5. Just make sure you have WinCLD version 1.20 or above.

WinCLD also supports Panasonic II systems.

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2. We are starting a new product tomorrow. Can I program WinCLD today?

Yes, provided that the new menu item is already active on the POS system. WinCLD learns new menu item names only when it sees them rung up on the registers, so this is the only way to teach it. Simply ring in one of the products, then overring the order. While the net product mix is zero, the name is now in the database.

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3. Can I move my cabinet items on the screen without reprogramming them ?

Absolutely! At the bottom of each cabinet editing screen, there are 3 function keys shown. Press [F7 CUT] to copy the item to memory and clear the current line, move the cursor to where you want it moved, and press [F8 PASTE] to paste it in the new position. Similarly, you can duplicate an item by pressing [F6 COPY] to copy it, move to another line, and then press [F8 PASTE] to paste it in the now position. You can even use this procedure to copy an item from one screen, then paste it onto another one. One warning, though: Press the [9 SAVE] key frequently to save your cabinet layout. That way, if you make a mistake, you can simply exit out of manager mode without saving changes, and just start over.

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4. One of my cabinet items is showing zeroes. Why?

The obvious answer is that you didn't assign a menu item to this cabinet item, but you probably already checked that. The most common cause is that someone changed the menu item name for this item. WinCLD, remember, treats every new name as a new menu item. The name is only a group of letters. To WinCLD, HAMBURGER and HAMBURG are completely different menu items. If you change the name, you need to reassign the new menu item to the cabinet item, in addition to the old menu item name. Why the old one too? Because you probably have hundreds of days of product mix saved under the old name. By assigning both the new and the old, you can still use all of that saved product mix.

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5. All of my cabinet levels have been decreasing over the last 3 weeks, and now read zero. Why

This means that your WinCLD has not been processing orders in over 3 weeks. The most common cause is that you upgraded your registers but did not upgrade your WinCLD. WinCLD version 1.20 is compatible with all PC-POS register software, so you can install it before you upgrade your registers to version 4.0.

This problem can also result if you (or your help desk) removed the POS programming which sends the product mix to WinCLD. Simply re-program the system, using WinCLD Installation Manual.

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6. WinCLD screen says there have been no orders for 30 minutes, but we're ringing in orders. What happened?

WinCLD receives its information from a POS keystation, or in the case of a stainless steel Pan II system, a printer control box. Either the POS isn't sending, or WinCLD isn't receiving. Press the [8 DATA] key to view the incoming register data. If it's not changing, follow these steps:

  1. The most common cause of this problem is that the registers have been reprogrammed to not send data to WinCLD. Remember that WinCLD pretends it is a front KVS monitor. Help desks see this, and ask the shift manager if you have a KVS monitor up front. They invariably say "no", so the help desk removes the programming. To fix this, you will need to repeat the steps in the installation manual. To view and print the installation manual, by click on the link below.
  2. Check that the thin gray or white data cable is properly connected on both ends.
  3. Try rebooting WinCLD. Exit the program, using the quitting password. Then, press 1 to reboot the system. Check the data input again.
  4. Try actually powering off WinCLD. Follow the instructions in 2 above, but power off WinCLD when it says it is safe. Wait 15 seconds, and turn it back on. Check the data again.
  5. Try rebooting the connected keystation or printer control box for 15 seconds, and turn it back on.

Additional help can be found in the troubleshooting section of WinCLD Installation manual. If you lost yours, you can download one by clicking here.

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7. WinCLD screen shows 3 sets of yellow numbers over each cabinet level. Why?

The 1-3 yellow numbers above each cabinet item level are simply your historical usage for that item for this time of day, for the days shown at the bottom of the screen. This is an aid for you when determining where the cabinet level numbers come from, and to help convince the crew to trust the numbers. To remove the numbers, simply press the slash [/] key on your keypad.

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8. How often should I back up my WinCLD system?

WinCLD automatically backs up all information to a CD-RW disc every morning at 4:00 AM. Simply make sure you have an error-free disc in the drive, and WinCLD will take care of backing up your data. We recommend replacing the disc at least once per month and saving the used one in a safe place.

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9. Is there any way to print the screens?

Yes! WinCLD is compatible with any Windows printer. Install your printer driver under Windows, and make sure it is the default printer. You can either add a new printer, or add a sharing box and use an existing printer. See all of the details in Technical Note #4.

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10. Does the system require professional installation?

No. The system can be installed by store personnel with some mechanical knowledge and some familiarity with manager functions on the POS system. The most difficult part of the installation is hanging the monitor bracket, which is within the abilities of just about anyone. A comprehensive installation manual is available, and you can view or download a copy now by visiting WinCLD Downloads Page.

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11. How many of the systems have been installed?

As of 09/01/2003, 64 WinCLD systems have been installed in New York, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, West Virginia, California, and Ontario, Canada. These restaurants are owned by more than 21 Owner/Operators, plus Corporation. A list of references is available upon request.

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12. Is there a warranty on WinCLD system?

Yes. We provide a 1-year parts and labor warranty on WinCLD computer and keypad, including advance shipment of a reconditioned WinCLD computer. The monitor is warranted by the manufacturer. If you need to send your monitor to Optiquest for repair, MCE will provide a copy of the original invoice. 

As software upgrades are freely available on this website, there will never be a charge for upgrading your DOS-based WinCLD software. If a Windowsâ or Linuxâ version is developed, current WinCLD licensees will be able to upgrade at a reasonable cost.

If you need assistance, please refer to WinCLD Feedback page on this site. MCE will provide limited telephone support for system troubleshooting and problem solving to customers who purchased their WinCLD directly from Meyers Custom Electronics. Please consult the resources provided on this web site before calling.

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